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Carl Jung: Did Christ ever call his disciples to him at a mass meeting?

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Carl Jung: Did Christ ever call his disciples to him at a mass meeting?

Undiscovered Self

Curiously enough, the Churches too want to avail themselves of mass action in order to cast out the devil with Beelzebub – the very Churches whose care is the salvation of the individual soul.

They too do not appear to have heard anything of the elementary axiom of mass psychology, that the individual becomes morally and spiritually inferior in the mass, and for this reason they do not burden themselves overmuch with their real task of helping the individual to achieve a metanoia, or rebirth of the spirit – deo concedente.

It is, unfortunately, only too clear that if the individual is not truly regenerated in spirit, society cannot be either, for society is the sum total of individuals in need of redemption.

I can therefore see it only as a delusion when the Churches try – as they apparently do – to rope the individual into a social organization and reduce him to a condition of diminished responsibility, instead of raising him out of the torpid, mindless mass and making clear to him that he is the one important factor and that the salvation of the world consists in the salvation of the individual soul.

It is true that mass meetings parade such ideas before him and seek to impress them on him by dint of mass suggestion, with the unedifying result that when the intoxication has worn off, the mass man promptly succumbs to another even more obvious and still louder slogan.

His individual relation to God would be an effective shield against these pernicious influences.

Did Christ ever call his disciples to him at a mass meeting?

Did the feeding of the five thousand bring him any followers who did not afterwards cry “Crucify him!” with the rest, when even the rock named Peter showed signs of wavering?

And are not Jesus and Paul prototypes of those who, trusting their inner experience, have gone their own individual ways, disregarding public opinion? ~Carl Jung, Undiscovered Self, Page 40-41

Carl Jung on “Christification” – Christ Quotations

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The Christian Church has hitherto [recognized] Christ as the one and only God-man. But the indwelling of the Holy Ghost, the third Divine Person, in man, brings about a Christification of many, and the question then arises whether these many are all complete God-men.  ~Carl Jung, CW 11, Page 470.

Therefore Nietzsche became one stigmatized by the spirit; like Saul he had to experience Christification, when the “other” whispered the “Ecce Homo” in his ear.

Which of them “broke down before the cross”—Wagner or Nietzsche?  ~Carl Jung, CW 7 Para 43

The quotation from John is taken from the fourteenth chapter, where Christ teaches that whoever sees him sees the Father.

He is in the Father and the Father is in him.

The disciples are in him and he in them, moreover they will be sent the Holy Ghost as Paraclete and will do works that are greater than his own.

This fourteenth chapter broaches a question that was to have great repercussions for the future: the problem of the Holy Ghost who will remain when Christ has gone, and who intensifies the interpenetration of the divine and the human to such a degree that we can properly speak of a “Christification” of the disciples.

Among the Christian mystics this identity was carried again and again to the point of stigmatization.

Only the mystics bring creativity into religion.

That is probably why they can feel the presence and the workings of the Holy Ghost, and why they are nearer to the experience of brotherhood in Christ.  ~Carl Jung, CW 14, Para 530

QUESTION 15. One of Job’s greatest problems was: Can I believe in a just God?

Individuation, “the Christification of many,” the solution given in “Answer to Job” [p. 470], does not do justice to Job’s question.

Did not Job want meaning, a good God and not simply individuation?

He was concerned with metaphysical and theological issues, and the modern Job is too, and just as man cannot live by bread alone, so is he unlikely to feel that he can live by individuation alone which, at its most successful, would appear to be little more than a preparatory process enabling him to face these issues more objectively.

Job wanted justice. He saw that he could not obtain it. Yahweh cannot be argued with. He is unreflecting power.

What else is left to Job but to shut his mouth?

He does not dream of individuation, but he knows what kind of God he is dealing with.

It is certainly not Job drawing further conclusions but God.

He sees that incarnation is unavoidable because man’s insight is a step ahead of him.

He must “empty himself of his Godhead and assume the shape of the i.e., man is his lowest form of existence, in order to obtain the jewel which man possesses in his self-reflection.

Why is Yahweh, the omnipotent creator, so keen to have his “slave,” body and soul, even to the point of admitted jealousy? ~Carl Jung, CW 18, Para 1623

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