Zarathustra Seminars

Mrs. Jung: I think we got this idea of the word as being spirit from the Bible, where the world was created through God. And in the New
Testament, in the Evangel of St. John, it says the Word was God and God was the Word, which seems to put the word very high indeed.

Prof Jung: Yes, but the German Wort does not mean Logos exactly.

Logos is the original conception, and the Logos has a peculiar quality; it is a higher concept than nous, the Greek word, which can be translated by “mind,” but both these words designate a sort of cosmogonic principle. In Gnosticism the cosmogonic principle is the equivalent of the Logos.

In the more differentiated philosophy of Philo Judaeus, who is the real originator of the Logos philosophy,  the Gospel of St.
John, that same principle is the Logos, and the Logos is divine.  It is God.

Now the Logos surely originally had to do with the word and therefore could be so translated, but the word was considered the creative factor in Egypt.

Therefore, the inscription on the temple of Ptah: “What he speaketh becomes.”

I should say that peculiar exaltation of the term Logos, meaning word, comes from the idea that it was the word which expressed the spirit.

But the fact was, that they were filled with spirit and then they made words; while we make words and assume that we are filled with spirit.

That is just the difference. They only spoke when the spirit filled them.

When they were gripped by the effervescence of the spirit, they spoke even in different tongues, even in unintelligible words, according to the account of the glossolalia in the New Testament.

An d in that, the word is like matter. It is the definiteness of the divine impulse, the divine creative spirit.

That inscription on the temple of Ptah shows very clearly this creative, becoming reality of the divine impulse, which is in itself beyond words and beyond bodies.

It is prior to all creation, having no form; but as soon as it comes into the space of the world it takes on definiteness. It creates matter.

Therefore, in the Tantric philosophy, matter is defined as the definiteness of the divine thought. ~Zarathustra Seminars, Page 366